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- SIC Noticas Anchor (Portuguese
24/7 News Channel) Goncalo Amaral (G.A.)
- the former Judiciary Police
inspector, coordinator of the Madeleine McCann investigation until
Pedro Mourinho (P.M.)
- Goncalo Amaral, former inspector of the Judiciary Police, and author
of the book "The
Truth of the Lie" on the Maddie Case is with us, live, on the
Midnight News. A very
good evening to you Dr. Goncalo Amaral.
Goncalo Amaral (G.A.)
- Good evening.
P.M. - Is
there any novelty for you in the documents now released by Wikileaks?
G.A. - No, in
reality the only news is the document disclosure itself, since as for
the evidence - the indicia - that is in the process. The cooperation and
collaboration with the English police is public knowledge and is in the
process. The results are there, therefore there isn't anything new.
P.M. - So, for
you, it isn't news that it was the British police that found the
evidence that has... would have incriminated
G.A. - No, I
didn't say that. It's not news with regard to the evidence. Now, as to
the proof held by the British police, I don't know what are they
referring to. There was cooperation and collaboration, the evidence and
indicia are in the process thus... I don't know, someone should say what
the evidence is; perhaps someone from the British police should say it.
All the same, it was the cooperation between the British and Portuguese
police that arrived at the proof that is in the process.
P.M. - As
someone that knows the process, as an inspector involved in the
investigation, coordinator of the investigation, don't you know what
evidence, specifically, the British ambassador was referring to?
G.A. - He
could only be referring to the evidence and indicia that are in the
process. I'm not seeing any other, if there is other evidence, it would
be strange for the British police to not have revealed it at the time.
P.M. - The
reference made in the last hours,
Dr. Goncalo Amaral, was in particular
to the evidence that had been obtained by the
dogs brought from the UK, that were
able to find cadaver scent in the McCann's
car; could that be the evidence?
G.A. - There
are several indications. The information that is in the process results
in other evidence, and, therefore there is a set of evidence that is in
the process, and that is probably what is being referred to. It is
unfortunate that the process is archived, but, perhaps this note might
enable the reopening of the inquest and the resumption of the
investigation until the truth is established, the material truth, the
complete truth, for Justice to be made.
P.M. - How was
the relationship between the British and Portuguese police forces? Was
it a good relationship, or, as the British media sustained for a certain
period of time, during the summer of 2007, was it a tense one and of
G.A. - No, it
was an excellent relationship, of cooperation, we often had lunch and
dinner together, we had various meetings, so there was already
friendship between colleagues. It was people who were involved in an
investigation, there wasn't any tension as it was stated.
P.M. - Would
it have been possible to go further, in gathering evidence, after what
took place in September 2007, or not?
G.A. - As I
said before, the investigation is an investigation that is interrupted,
an investigation that needs to be concluded. I believe that it is
possible to make progress, if it wasn't for lack of political will; now
with political will, based on this note - which is only a note as you
said, but remains an important note nevertheless between two
ambassadors, from one ambassador to the US State Department, that must
have the weight that it has. Hopefully now, it will also be disclosed
those photos, those satellite images that we believe to be in the
possession of the US authorities, that we, the Portuguese police
mentioned first, and also requested, a request that was denied to us.
P.M. - In your
understanding, what could those satellite images reveal?
G.A. - They
can reveal who was the person that carried the child on that night on
its way to the beach. According to an Irish couple's statement, with an
alleged 80% certainty, it was Gerald McCann himself. That could be the
confirmation of that Irish couple's statement.
P.M. - And
those images exist?
G.A. - We
believe that, yes. In fact, the
McCann couple themselves, said, a few
months ago, that they also searched for them; that they don't exist,
someone else later stated that they don't exist. It's possible that the
site that has divulged the cable might also be able to release those
images. That would be interesting.
P.M. - In your
opinion, if they exist, why weren't they yet revealed?
G.A. - Well,
probably because they are a secret of state somewhere... In fact, the
whole investigation was a state secret in England. I remind you that
there is documentation in that sense, referring that it is a state
secret. We do not understand why it is considered as a state secret. In
question is the disappearance, and the likely death of a child, and we
still fail to understand why that is considered as state secrecy.
P.M. - You
have spoken before about the 'political will'. Do you consider that
there was a connivance of the British government, with the McCann
couple, knowing that the London authorities - and at least we now have
that certainty - were indeed aware of the evidence uncovered by the
police of their own country. What I want to ask you, in your opinion, in
the scope of this document, is, if we can understand a little bit better
the manner in which the McCanns left the country?
G.A. - I
apologize for stating the obvious, but they have left the country by
airplane. And they were well received back in England. What we became
increasingly aware was the political influence, of the intervention of
the British prime minister at the time, Gordon Brown, of the
conversations that he allegedly had with our own prime minister, in
October, at the Lisbon Summit - if they indeed spoke on the subject or
not, we weren't there to listen. Some say they did, others say they
didn't; but a fact remains, and this was the result: there was a point
that the British police officers working on the case had to sign a
document as if they belonged to the secret services, requesting their
confidentiality so they wouldn't speak about the case. Definitely
something strange, not usual under other circumstances. Thus, from then
on, and with other elements - that would be too lengthy for us to be
detailing here now - remains no doubt that a political intervention,
practically, archived the case.
P.M. - Of the
British and of the Portuguese government?
G.A. - The
case went to the Portuguese General Attorney's Office, who published a
statement saying that they had not found any indicia in the process...
something that we find very strange. I recall that the decision made by
the Appellate Court- on October 19, of this year, which lifted the banning of
the book that I've authored,
'Maddie, The Truth of The Lie' - suggests that with the
indicia that exists in the process, the opinion of the Public Ministry
to archive the case could have been another, if the prosecutors were
different. That means that something exists there [in the process]. I
have no doubts that the magistrates, the appellate judges, have read the
P.M. - Do you
believe that this document, this note now revealed by WikiLeaks, can
indeed change something as to the process? You have already said during
this interview that you hoped for that to happen, but do you truly
believe that that it will take place?
G.A. - This
matter has evolved, step by step, we cannot use this document as a flag,
the knowledge of this note as a victory - let's put it in this way, it
does not mean an immediate reopening of the case. However, I do believe
that we are walking towards that goal, that finally the reconstruction
of the facts may take place with the couple and with their friends, if
they so wish, and if they are willing to return to Portugal.
P.M. - You
spoke of 'victory', do you believe that this will change the perception
that people have about the Maddie case?
G.A. - The
perception that I have, as far as the perception of people go, is that
the Judiciary Police has worked, the Judiciary Police was able to reach
some conclusions, important conclusions; that the process needs to go
on, the investigation has to continue, and, as we have previously spoken
here today, the process was archived for political reasons - that is the
perception that people have.
P.M. - Goncalo
Amaral, former inspector of the Judiciary Police, author of the book
'Maddie, The Truth of The Lie' about the Madeleine McCann case, live, on
this Midnight news edition, after tonight, when another confidential
document was released by WikiLeaks. It's the only document that makes a
reference to the Maddie case - an exchange between the British and
North-American ambassadors in Lisbon, where the British ambassador has
confirmed that the British government had knowledge of the evidence that
would incriminate Madeleine McCann's parents. Meanwhile, the McCann's
spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, fully depreciated this revelation;
contacted tonight by the News agency Lusa, he said that the cable "is
something from the past, an historical document, more than three years
old" and which, he added, "therefore has no substance".