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Ireland AM's Mark Cagney talks to Kate and her Gerry McCann about the anguish they have
endured since that terrible night in May 2007, when they discovered that their daughter Madeleine had been abducted from their
By Nigel Moore
Sinead Desmond: Now, Madeleine McCann would have celebrated her eighth birthday last week.
Her parents last saw their daughter in Portugal four years ago and now Kate McCann has written a memoir about her experience,
called simply 'Madeleine'.
Detectives from Scotland Yard have now been granted permission to review the
files of Portuguese investigators for the very first time.
Mark Cagney: Last Friday I met with
Kate and her husband Gerry to talk about the anguish that they've endured since that terrible night, in May 2007, when
they discovered that Madeleine had been abducted from their holiday villa in Portugal.
Cagney: Errr... Kate and Gerry McCann, errm... you're very welcome to Ireland. Thank you very much for agreeing
to do this interview with us. Errm... can we... we... there was a bit of news today, errm... in that I believe David
Cameron, the British Prime Minister has, errr... has okayed, or ordered, or agreed to have an inquiry, errm... so, before
we get to that and what that might mean, could you tell us what the current status of the search for Madeleine is, Gerry.
Gerry McCann: Well, the police investigation was closed in July 2008 and since then we haven't
had any police, errr... essentially looking for Madeleine, throughout that whole period, and we've been asking through
Home Office channels, errr... for a long time to try and get a review done, which is standard practice for most, errr... major
unsolved crimes in the UK. So, we've pretty much been on our own really, errr... employing private investigators.
We've currently got a small team working for us and we've had some, errr... advisers, errr... which has been good
and, of course, we continue to raise awareness, errr... distribute posters and the like, and fund administrator and a
co-ordinator. So, we've got a small team of people who have been essentially looking for Madeleine.
Mark Cagney: Has there... is there any glimmer of light, is there any clue, any particular avenue that
you're following, any country that you're focussing on?
Gerry McCann: No, errm... and
I think that's been one of the difficulties that we've had. There's never been a single piece of information
where we've thought 'right, that's it, we need to follow it'. There's... there's lots of lines
of inquiry and there... in Kate's book, at the back, errr... there's key pieces of information and people who we'd
really like to identify.
Kate McCann: I mean, I think it's hard because when people ask: 'Are
you any closer?', you know, it's, errr... it's, errr... it is difficult to give them an answer really because
until we find out who's taken Madeleine or where she is we don't know if we're really close or, you know, a
million miles away, really. So, I'm not sure what the step before that is to know how close we are.
McCann: And you look at the... the circumstances where other children who have been missing for a long time,
and when they've been found, you know [clicks fingers] it's like that. It's not like you suddenly think,
'we're getting warm, we're getting warm' [clicks fingers]. Jaycee Dugard, Elizabeth Smart, Natasha Kampusch
- it's an instantaneous thing, errr... so you've just got to be prepared that you may have no warning.
Cagney: Now you... you... you made your appeal initially to the Home Secretary, errr... to... to launch
the inquiry and, errr... the news came through that, errr... that Prime Minister Cameron has a... has a... agreed
to that. How do you think that will help?
Kate McCann: Well, the review is... is standard
practice in most major unsolved crimes. There's a lot of information... a lot of information in Portugal, errm...
in the... with the... the UK authorities and with our own team and it hasn't all brought... been brought together on one
searchable database and I guess we see it as lots of pieces of the jigsaw which haven't been joined together and two bits
of information may seem insignificant on their own but when joined up it might... might become more significant, errm...
Gerry McCann: I think the, you know, in the... in the UK a lot of lessons have been learned over
many years with major high-profile inquiries; Yorkshire Ripper case was where the information, errr... Peter Sutcliffe was
in that inquiry in several different places and it wasn't linked. So, what you've got to do is really get it
onto a searchable database that is capable of being - what the analysts tell us is 'mined' - and... and having
different pieces of information linked. And that's really important because at the minute our understanding of, errr...
the data in Portugal is that they're on computers but essentially on Word documents and there hasn't been this formal,
comprehensive review and we often give the example of, errr... if you came to see us and we didn't know what was wrong
with you and we'd done lots of tests, we'd get someone else to look at you, you know, a sec...
Cagney: So, fresh eyes.
Gerry McCann: Yes, fresh eyes. A second opinion is so important.
Mark Cagney: One question, errr... errm... you've been, quite rightly, errr... highly critical
of, errr... the Portuguese authorities in the investigation; it was a shambles, by any standards, it was a shambles, and...
and maybe you don't want to say that, well I'll say it for you. Errr... are you worried at all that this new
inquiry will get their backs up, or annoy them?
Gerry McCann: Well...
Cagney: Because you are directly saying: 'you made a hash of this, so we're going to get somebody else'.
Gerry McCann: An important thing for us is not to rake over old ground and mistakes that were made;
mistakes have been well publicised. What we're more concerned about are leads that were followed up but not to the
standard that we would expect and the review is more about, errr... identifying lines of inquiry and further actions, errr... 'cause
mistakes and the past don't help us find Madeleine. People can learn from them but, errm... for us, Madeleine's parents,
Parents of Madeleine McCann document
toddler's disappearance, 12 May 2011
Parents of Madeleine McCann document toddler's disappearance CNN
News of Madeleine McCann's disappearance in 2007 grabbed headlines around the world
the CNN Wire Staff May 12, 2011 -- Updated 0717 GMT (1517 HKT) Watch the full interview with Madeleine McCann's parents, four years after her disappearance, on Piers Morgan Tonight,
9 p.m. ET. (CNN) -- Four years after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, a British toddler
who went missing in Portugal, her parents have written a book detailing their account of that horrible night.
suppose there's always been the urge to -- to get the truth out there," Kate McCann, the missing girl's mother,
told CNN's Piers Morgan in an interview that will air Wednesday night at 9 p.m. ET. "Obviously, when there's
been so many stories written. But we've always had things to weigh up. And ultimately, Madeleine's fund was running
out, and I knew that we'd need to raise money, really, to continue to search."
She says profits from the
book sales will be directed toward furthering the investigation into the disappearance of their daughter in Portugal's
Algarve region in 2007.
"There's just always something inside, and the pain is never too far away from
the surface," said Gerry McCann, the girl's father.
News of the missing wide-eyed girl grabbed headlines
across the globe and moved celebrities such as soccer star David Beckham to make public pleas for her safe return.
"I don't think it consumes every minute as it did before," Kate McCann explained. "But certainly, you
know, Madeleine's absence is there constantly."
She added that she's "now reached that point
where I will allow myself to take time out, and just relax a little, enjoy something." But the absence of her daughter
is "still tangible."
The pair says they are hopeful that the book, entitled "Madeleine," will
prompt others to come forward with information about the girl's disappearance.
"There is a chance she
may not be alive," said Kate McCann. "But what we do know is there's a very good chance that she is alive."
Madeleine was nearly 4 years old when she vanished from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz as her
parents dined in a nearby tapas restaurant with friends.
Despite a huge police investigation and massive coverage
in the Portuguese and British media, she has not been found.
At one point, authorities in Portugal had named the
girl's parents as suspects, as well as a British man living in Portugal, Robert Murat.
But a spokesman for
the Portuguese prosecutor's office said in July 2008 that authorities found no evidence of involvement by any of the three
and they were no longer considered suspects.
Kate McCann said earlier that she thought being named as a suspect
had a devastating effect on the case.
Portuguese investigators closed the case in July 2008.
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PIERS MORGAN, HOST: Tonight, vanished. The case that shocked the world.
GERRY MCCANN, MADELEINE MCCANN'S FATHER: The pain is never too far away from the surface.
MORGAN: On vacation
in Portugal, Kate and Gerry McCann put their 4-year-old daughter Madeleine to bed and they never saw her again.
KATE MCCANN, MADELEINE MCCANN'S MOTHER: I don't know how much I love the children and there's no way I'd
have taken a risk.
MORGAN: Four years later, after a global search, she's still missing.
Madeleine's still missing. And whoever's responsible for taking her are still at large.
MORGAN: Who took
Madeleine? Is she still alive? If she is, will her parents ever find her?
K. MCCANN: It is wrong to give up on
children who are still missing.
MORGAN: Tonight, Kate and Gerry McCann. Their hopes for Madeleine.
MCCANN: There's absolutely no evidence anywhere to suggest that Madeleine has been physically harmed.
And their darkest days.
G. MCCANN: At the lowest point, I thought our family was going to be destroyed.
MORGAN: Kate and Gerry McCann for the hour. This is a PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT exclusive.
Kate, Gerry, thank you
for sitting down with me. Today is the eighth birthday Madeleine would have enjoyed had she been with you. We still have no
idea where Madeleine may be or what's happened to her.
You've written a book, Kate, about your experience.
It's based on diaries that you wrote from a few weeks after she'd vanished. Why have you done the book?
K. MCCANN: Of course my reason for writing it all down is quite different to the reason to publish it as a book. And initially
when I started to keep my diaries, it was really so that Madeleine would have an account so when we found her, I'd be
able to fill in the gaps. And also showing them for when they were older.
And then going back to 2008, I actually
filled in the gaps before I started keeping my diary so a little bit about me and Gerry and our backgrounds. And again, that
was all just for the kids.
And I suppose it's always been the urge to get the truth out there. When there's
been so many stories written before we have things (INAUDIBLE). And ultimately, Madeleine's fund was running out. And
I knew that we'd need to raise money really to continue the search.
MORGAN: So all the money from this book
is going to -- actually to the Madeleine Fund.
K. MCCANN: I think so.
MORGAN: So that you can continue
to try and find out what happened to her.
K. MCCANN: That's right.
MORGAN: Gerry, obviously, that
is the crux of this, isn't it, for you?
G. MCCANN: Absolutely.
MORGAN: You just don't know.
I mean I'm a father of three children. I cannot imagine -- now I can remember my kids disappearing for a minute or two
minutes and that awful panic that you feel as a parent when that happens.
To be here, years later, and have no
idea where she is or what may have happened, it must be excruciating, isn't it?
G. MCCANN: It certainly was.
And I think one of the reasons we've had so much public sympathy and empathy is I think every parent does know that feeling
when your child is out of sight even for a few seconds and the panic it generates.
And obviously, for any family
like yourselves whose child has been abducted, it's the most terrifying experience. But you do adapt. And the pain is
not as raw. But, you know, we do still manage to get some enjoyment in our life and we've got two other beautiful children
who are fantastic.
And the support we've had from the public has really helped carry us through. But it's
just always something inside and the pain is never too far away from the surface.
MORGAN: I mean, Kate, do you
ever have a day where this doesn't consume you?
K. MCCANN: I don't think it consumes every minute as it
did before. But certainly, you know, Madeleine's absence is there constantly. I mean, as Gerry said, although we do have
lovely times with Sean and Emily, and although I've now reached that point where I will allow myself to take time out,
and just relax and enjoy something.
And you know, her absence is still tangible. And we can have a lovely family
day. But as Sean will point out, it's really not a family day, mommy, because Madeleine's not here. You know and --
MORGAN: Have you considered having another baby? Has that even entered your thought process?
No. I mean, I think you probably know obviously our three children were born with the help of IVF. And -- so it wouldn't
exactly be straight forward anyway. But, you know, you can't replace Madeleine.
And I know you're not
suggesting that but I don't know. I think all the grief that we've been through and the busyness of everything, and
obviously we've got Sean and Emily that we need to concentrate on.
MORGAN: Do you both 100 percent believe
she's still alive? Or do you have to believe that?
K. MCCANN: I don't think -- I don't think we can
say 100 percent. I mean, you know, we're realistic. We know that there is a chance that she may not be alive. But what
we do know is there's a very good chance that she's alive. And there's certainly nothing to suggest otherwise.
And as you know, as well as many children who are found years down the line, they could have been written off,
you know. And then they were found. So it would be wrong -- you know, it is wrong to give up on children who are still missing.
MORGAN: I mean, what is so strange about this story, and I remember living through it here in England at the time,
is there's just no evidence of anything. She just vanished.
G. MCCANN: Actually --
There was a man seen carrying a child away --
MORGAN: But we don't know who he was. We don't even know
if that was Madeleine. It could have been anybody. I mean --
K. MCCANN: We don't. But nobody came forward
to eliminate themselves.
K. MCCANN: And obviously the timing of it, you know. MORGAN:
So you believe from all that you know that that shadowy figure that was seen with a young child was probably the abduction
taking place? Is that what you think?
K. MCCANN: Yes.
G. MCCANN: Yes, completely. And I think, you
know, another thing, aspect about the book, I strongly believe a good reason for publishing it is putting these facts together
about the sighting of the man carrying the child and the detail of that, as seen by our friend, Jane Turner (ph). Jane hadn't
seen him, she literally would have been plucked from thin air.
But there's another sighting which Kate describes
in the book that occurred about 45 minutes later when an Irish family gave an almost identical description of the man and
the child independently of Jane's. It wasn't in the public domain.
MORGAN: Let's get back to what
happened. You were on holiday in Portugal. You were at a child-friendly resort. And at about 7:30, you were putting your kids
to bed. You had the two 2-year-olds and you had Madeleine who was 4. Tell me what happened.
Gerry, you start.
G. MCCANN: Well, we've always had the routine with the kids. Twins usually went to bed about 7:00 and Madeleine
used to have a little bit extra time as this was at home as well. And I'd played tennis that evening and Kate had got
the kids ready.
So when I came back, pretty much took them into the bedroom, read them a story and tucked them
into the cots for the twins and Madeleine into bed. And we'd arranged to have dinner with our friends. And literally dining
in the tapas area which was adjacent apartment as (INAUDIBLE), so we're about 50 meters away. And -- which we've done
the four previous nights as well, coming back and forth to check --
MORGAN: This remains one of the highly contentious
parts of this. Because you're both professional medical people. And you've got three very young children. And I know
that you've expressed regret over this. And I'm not after more of that. It'd be completely pointless.
In terms of the normal practice, though, when you were with them, would you ever have left them alone in that situation
if you'd been at home, for example, back in England?
G. MCCANN: Definitely not. I mean, the closest thing
that you would do to that -- it didn't feel that different -- would be dining in your garden.
MORGAN: I mean,
Kate, as a mother here, you must live through that all the time. And beat yourself up. I've seen you do that and I've
heard you do that. And my heart goes out to you because there's not a parent I know that hasn't mislaid a child at
some stage. K. MCCANN: All I can say is if I'd ever thought there was any risk at all, you know, it just wouldn't
have happened. And that's all I can say really, you know? And it's hard to, you know, sometimes to think at home when
I was going to the post office and I had the twins in the double buggy because it wouldn't fit through the post office
door, I used to get my aunt to come and meet me and just stand by the door even though it's a tiny post office and I could
see the buggy so nothing (INAUDIBLE) with sort of how we act in Portugal.
And all I can say, it just felt so safe.
You know it was a family-friendly resort. The first time that I've ever been to Portugal but all the family and friends
we knew who had been there said it's, you know, a lovely country and it's really safe and it's for families.
MORGAN: I mean, Gerry, I mean, the difficult question, but obviously the resort you were in had lots of nanny facilities.
And they weren't that expensive to use. And you both were professionals earning money.
Another criticism as
put to you is why didn't you just pay to have a nanny if you wanted to go out to dinner?
G. MCCANN: Yes, I
mean, it's not a question of money. We did what we thought was best in the kids' routines. And I think -- we had a
very good routine in terms of the whole bath, bed story type thing. And I take your point. But for me, you know, if your children
asleep upstairs in the bedroom and you are dining in the garden, you're out of sight and you can't hear them. And
that's the similar thing to me.
MORGAN: You said -- I guess that most people's
homes are secure.
G. MCCANN: Sure.
MORGAN: You know? This was not a secure property. People could
come in and off the street if they wanted to. That's where the criticism I guess comes at its most fierce towards you
is -- you know, you're intelligent people and you're certainly good parents, no one's questioning that from all
accounts we've all heard.
It's just when you have people coming in and off the street like that, and it's
not your home and it's not really secure.
G. MCCANN: Again, I mean, I think that it's back to the safety
issue. We did not perceive an element of threat. And child abduction is so rare. Why would we have ever have thought that
someone was going to go into our apartment and steal your child? It just didn't enter our head. If it had it wouldn't
K. MCCANN: We've been through all these questions day in, day out. Why,
how, why. And I can only, you know, say to myself, well, you felt really safe. And I know how much I love my children. And
there's no way I'd have taken a risk.
G. MCCANN: I think the worst thing, though, about the focus on our
behavior and, you know, if we could change it, we would have. We can't change it. But it takes the focus away from the
abductor. And that becomes quite frustrating for us because Madeleine is still missing. And those -- that person or those
responsible for taking her are still at large, Piers, and you know that's --
MORGAN: Somebody somewhere knows
G. MCCANN: Yes.
MORGAN: And that must eat you up much more than, you know, fireside
critics saying you should have done this --
G. MCCANN: Yes. You know it's not like a double -- you know a
double punishment, you know. We have expressed our regret. It doesn't change it, you know. And what we're trying to
focus on --
K. MCCANN: I guess no one --
G. MCCANN: From day one is what we can do to find Madeleine
and those responsible. And you know if we can go back and jumped in the (INAUDIBLE), we would be there.
(INAUDIBLE) I'd want to change what we did that night obviously, you know.
MORGAN: Do you have a lot of regret?
Now looking back, obviously not just because Madeleine went, but do you think with hindsight, you should have done more to
protect them? Do you feel that?
K. MCCANN: Well, obviously, because of what's happened, you know. And I beat
myself up every day but I can't change it now. I have to go forward and see what I can do now.
We have to be careful as well. Because I think, you know, almost certainly if we had been dining on the balcony of the apartment,
this would not have happened. I'm absolutely clear about that. But child abductions do happen when parents are with their
children. People are stolen in resorts and in parks.
And there was a case in the UK a few years ago where a little
child was (INAUDIBLE) stolen out of the bath while her parents were in the living room. So you know -- we made the mistake
but the crime is the person taking the child. And, you know, it's incredibly rare but that's the focus. And that person
could strike again. And we need to find them.
MORGAN: Want to take a short break. When I come back, I want to
talk to you about the moment you discovered that Madeleine had gone.
was the exact moment -- let me ask you, Kate -- when you realized Madeleine had gone?
K. MCCANN: Well, went back
to do a check at 10:00 and I went through the patio doors at the back. And I listened for a minute in the living room. And
it was all quiet. I just noticed that the door to the children's bedroom was quite far open. And we always leave it just
so it's slightly ajar, just to let a little bit of light in.
And I thought to myself, did Matt leave the door
open at half nine? Matt checked on the half nine. And I thought, that must be what happened. So I went to close over the children's
And just as I was about to close it, it kind of slammed. Like a gust of wind had shut it. Then I thought
I'll leave the patio doors open. So I just checked and they were closed. And then I went back just to open the door again
a little bit. And just as I was doing that I just -- I just glanced at Madeleine's bed which was by the wall. And it was
really dark and I couldn't quite make her out.
But I just kept looking for what felt like minutes thinking,
you know, where is she, you know? It seems dark now because normally you'd think I'd put the light on. But in fact
it's that in built thing of don't wake the kids up. And then I looked and realized she wasn't there. And I thought,
had she gone through to our bedroom? And you know that would explain why the door was open as well.
So I just
quickly looked in our room. And she wasn't there. And that's probably the first time that panic starts to build. So
I'm back into her room. And just as I did that, it was the curtains which were closed just kind of blew open. And (INAUDIBLE)
I noticed that the shutter was open. The window was open.
MORGAN: And what did you think in that moment?
K. MCCANN: I thought someone's taken her.
MORGAN: You went down to tell Gerry straight away?
MCCANN: Yes. I just basically and quickly whisked around the apartment, like 15 seconds. I don't know why. In my head,
I was just thinking if someone's been in and she's cowering somewhere I guess is why I did it. And then it just flew
out through the back, down the stairs to the restaurant.
And as soon as the table was in sight, I just started
screaming, Madeleine is gone. And then they all jumped up and we heard a neighbor saying, she must be there, she must be there.
But obviously I knew.
MORGAN: And, Gerry, this is every father's nightmare. Every mother's nightmare.
But as a father, a young girl, and she's gone. What are you thinking?
G. MCCANN: The first thing that went
straight through my head and I think -- it was just disbelief. I said, she can't be there, she can't be there. And
I was running to the apartment with Kate. And I've checked. And she said, I've checked, I've checked, she's
And I ran into the bedroom. And I found it just as Kate described. And when I saw that window pushed
wide open and the shutter up, which we'd left down the whole week, it was horrible. And I -- lowered the shutter and I
went through the front door. And I was able to lift the shutter from outside which --
MORGAN: Do you know that
yet? Do you know -- is there any evidence how this person came in the room?
G. MCCANN: I mean no doubt, there
are a number of options. And --
MORGAN: No, actual evidence. There's nothing they could find to say this is
unequivocally how this person came in?
G. MCCANN: No. I mean, it's possible they came through the window.
They could have come through the patio doors, although that was in sight of where we were dining. So I think that's probably
less likely. For all we know, they could have had a key, you know, lots of people stayed in that apartment over years to the
front door --
MORGAN: There was a report that that morning Madeleine had asked you why
you didn't come when she'd been crying. Did that set alarm bells off when she did that?
K. MCCANN: Well,
it's one of those things. There's no hindsight. But at the time when she said it, you know, it did -- you know, we
were saying, what do you mean, Madeleine? You know kind of -- we were trying to think, you know, was she upset at that time,
you know, her bath time.
And we kind of pressed her a bit. And said, when was this. And she just dropped it and
carried on playing. And at that point, I'm thinking, oh, god, I hope she didn't wake up, you know, in between our
checks. I would hate to think that could have happened and she'd worry we weren't there.
But at the same
time, that didn't to me, just seemed a little bit odd because yes, it could happen but it just seemed a bit of a coincidence
that we'd check, leave, she's wake up, get herself back off to sleep, which kids don't often do.
MCCANN: Like Sean.
K. MCCANN: And she's sleep again before the next --
MORGAN: Do you have any
blame that you would attach to the resort itself? Now given the time that's gone past?
K. MCCANN: No. I mean,
I think -- you know, the person to blame is the person that's taken Madeleine. There's no doubt about that. And it's
like (INAUDIBLE) the decision we made. You can argue well, maybe we should have known about burglaries. Maybe that would have
changed our behavior. And --
MORGAN: Have there been a number of burglaries there?
K. MCCANN: Yes. There's been quite a lot of burglaries.
MORGAN: Do you know how many there have been
now? Do you know all the figures for that?
G. MCCANN: No, we're not sure. I mean it's difficult because
we didn't have access to the crimes, and things of that. We know of other people contacting us saying the apartment had
been burglared (ph) in.
MORGAN: One of the real frustrations for you is there's these two investigating authorities.
One in Britain, one in Portugal. Do you think there is a missing link here? Do you believe that if enough time and money and
resources devoted to this, that there's some stone that's been left unturned in this investigation?
MCCANN: I'm absolutely certain that there are things that could be done based on the information that's available
to us. There are multiples leads and lines of inquiry which we think could be explored further. Based on what is in the Portuguese
And I think it's critical really that for any major serious unsolved crime, certainly in the UK, a review
would be a routine procedure. And that's when someone else comes in and looks at what's been done. And that hasn't
been done within Portugal.
MORGAN: When the police turned up, what was their initial behavior like towards you?
We know that things turned pretty unpleasant quite quickly. But when they first arrived, Kate, were they sympathetic? Were
they helpful? What was the mood like?
K. MCCANN: The first police that turned up were what we call G&R police.
They weren't the criminal police of Portugal. Of course we didn't -- we didn't know the different kind of categories
and especially got to bear in mind that we have the language barrier and so it's incredibly, incredibly difficult.
And I guess my biggest concern -- and it's hard to know if this is because interpretation, I didn't feel the
sense of urgency as much as I'd like them to. And obviously, I knew my child had been taken. And it's quite hard to
get somebody else to believe that. And --
MORGAN: Did you think -- did you think, Gerry, from the start that they
were suspicious of you?
G. MCCANN: Certainly. And the next day, I know that we as the parents, and being there,
and the last people to see Madeleine, that we'd be investigated. I think anyone who's got an inkling of any sort of
police type investigation knows that's going to happen. So, you know, we went in and gave statements and were happy to
help. And things like, you know, both the information we gave about Madeleine and what she said that morning. We gave all
this information. That's exactly what we've done in the hope that it would help.
MORGAN: Has there ever
been any discrepancy between anything that either of you has said? Any of your friends that were you that night? Has there
been anything that if an outside lawyer looked at this, they would say, that doesn't add up?
K. MCCANN: You
have to remember, there were nine people in the party here who didn't expect anything of this kind to happen. You know
so if you're talking about inconsistencies of time, being off five or 10 minutes, then I think that's to be expected.
I think that'd be normal. I think if it was all, you know, tightly to the minute that would be more suspicious. But there's
no major --
G. MCCANN: I think one of best examples of an inconsistency is when I came out of the apartment having
checked Madeleine about five past 9:00, and I was going back to the tapas area and I saw one of the guys who I played tennis
with. And he was walking up the opposite side of the door to put his child, and Jane walked up and saw us.
I'm adamant that it was on the other side of the road and Jane's adamant and in fact the other guy were adamant. So
(INAUDIBLE) side of the road. So two people saying one thing, I'm saying another. The key thing is, it happened. And I
can't say (INAUDIBLE), you know, my memory says it was the other side of the road.
The British police are
pretty clear about this. That you get these sorts of inconsistencies all the time because no one's writing down as you're
MORGAN: And also as Kate said, if it was all completely in agreement about
every tiny detail, that to me would seem more suspicious.
G. MCCANN: Yes, absolutely.
we come back, I want to talk to you about the moment that you realized the first time that the Portuguese police were not
looking for anybody else in connection with Madeleine's disappearance. They were looking at you.
MORGAN: When the mood began to change, massive media attention. A lot of criticism against the Portuguese
police and authorities for not move quickly enough, not doing their job properly, and they retaliate, it seems to me, or they
respond -- let's be polite here -- in the worst possible way as far as you're concerned.
They make you
formal suspects. Arguido. What was the moment like for you when you heard that was happening? Because that completely changed
K. MCCANN: I think this had gone on probably from the end of July into August really. And there's
certainly change in the media coverage. And it was obvious that things have been leaked. Stories were being leaked to the
media to smear us essentially or to show us in a negative light.
And that's the thing we still have to sense,
the hostility. And that coincided with the time where suddenly our communication, our meetings with the police, stopped. So
not only were we having to face all that negativity and lies, and we're also left in this void of information. And we
found out that we were going to be made arguido.
MORGAN: That must be the worst moment of all, other than the
moment you know that Madeleine's gone, to have somebody look you in the eye and effectively say to both of you we think
you killed your daughter. That's a terrible moment, isn't it?
K. MCCANN: I just thought, what is going
on here? You know, but you're right, nothing is worse as the first night but it just felt like we were about to get destroyed
at that point.
G. MCCANN: Yes. I think the realization was a particular problem for Kate, that effectively there
was no ongoing search because there is clearly a strategy where the public were being led to believe that there is evidence
that Madeleine was dead. And that simply wasn't the case.
MORGAN: Gerry, you kept remarkably calm. That almost
played to your disadvantage. People thought, why is he being so calm? Had you been hysterical, they'd say, why is he being
so hysterical? You can't win in that position.
G. MCCANN: You didn't see me behind the scenes.
MORGAN: But you were remarkably calm. I mean, if I'd been in your shoes and I've being accused of something I --
I think would have freaked out.
How did you manage to keep your composure?
G. MCCANN: I think the
key thing is -- I mean, as I say, behind the scenes --
K. MCCANN: He's probably very different. I mean, I
saw my husband on the floor crying his eyes out, you know? And so I think --
G. MCCANN: I mean at that point,
at the lowest point, I thought our family was going to be destroyed or the potential for it to be destroyed was there. They're
ultimately -- and protect them and you're tired and you're doing that. You come back and the overwhelming objective
that we have is to find Madeleine, and what you need to do to get through that and to keep that search going.
I mean, we should be clear, there was no formal accusation. We were never arrested. There were no charges. And the arguido
thing literally is -- you know, is translated at suspect. But it would be -- you could argue if we'd been made arguido
on day one, because they had to ask us some questions which might incriminate you, that would have been fine and they -- I
guess I said if we have to start from square one again, you know, bring it on and we will be there and do it.
there was clearly a portrayal in the media that there was evidence incriminating us. And you know, we were clearly suggested
that if we confessed to hiding Madeleine's body then that would be the end of it.
MORGAN: Were you offered
a specific deal like that? Were you offered if you'd -- if you accept that you did this, you can go to prison for two
years and be out?
K. MCCANN: Yes.
MORGAN: That is what I read. Is that true?
It's true. I mean, it's hard because nobody likes to be called a deal. But indirectly it was put to us that if we
confessed to hiding Madeleine's body -- so not killing her but accidental death -- if we confessed to hiding the body,
then it would be a non-custodial service, two years.
And Gerry could go back to work, we were told. And that was
You know the hardest thing, I should say, about the arguido was the realization suddenly that no one
was looking for Madeleine, because they if they were looking at us and focusing all their attention and resources on us or
trying to find stuff against stuff us, then who was looking for Madeleine?
So I was angry. I mean, I'd gone
from kind of this downward spiral in July, when nobody was really speaking to us and August full of headlines. And suddenly
I just felt strong, because I thought, no, I'm damned if this will happen to my daughter, you know? If they're not
going to be there for her, then we have to fight for her.
MORGAN: Going to take another short break. When we come
back, I want to talk to you about the fight that you then launched to try and find Madeleine, and what you think are the possible
unanswered questions that need to be answered.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
We welcome the news today, although it is no cause for celebration. I can't describe how utterly despairing it was to
be named arguido and subsequently portrayed in the media as suspects in our own daughter's abduction.
MORGAN: That was just after you'd been informed you were no longer arguido, no longer a suspect,
as they call it there. And whilst there's relief in your voice, Kate, there's also, I can tell, a real simmering anger.
what did it do to your public opinion, particularly back home here, where it was such an enormous story? You were front page
news for weeks after weeks after months after months. A lot of it negative, a lot of it pushing really hard, as almost as
if some of the media wanted you to be guilty. I remember reading the headlines thinking, wow, they're pushing the envelope
here. You're having to live in this country and you're having to live with being called arguido, suspects.
That must have been a pretty awful experience, wasn't it?
K. MCCANN: You know, it was a great story for the
media. But, you're right. This was out life. We were having to live it, you know, and --
G. MCCANN: I think
it's a bad episode from the media, you know, because obviously we took action against the "Express" and it was
a last resort. But they were rehashing the headlines from months before over and over again. And we were prepared to cut a
bit of slack around the arguido time.
We were declared arguido. These things were happening in Portugal. But,
you know, months later -- and some of the stories were just completely fabrications. It was detrimental to the south.
K. MCCANN: I think the other important issue were the stories that were being put out there were implying that Madeleine
G. MCCANN: Yes.
MORGAN: Of all the mad cat theories -- and you must have seen more than anybody
else. You must hear and see everything that literally comes out about this. Are there any that you think have any kind of
credibility that you think should be really pushed further?
G. MCCANN: It's incredibly difficult, Piers, because
if you speak to -- here on in the island, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, who've got the most
expertise in these types of stranger or stereotypical kidnappings. Well, (INAUDIBLE) says and (INAUDIBLE) says until you know
who has taken your daughter, you don't know.
And you can think of a whole host of scenarios. And I think that
he's given us some examples.
When Elizabeth Smart was abducted at knife point from her bedroom, which she
shared with her sisters, he says there was no way we could have known that she would be living just miles from home. Jaycee
Dugard -- I mean in all of these cases, who could have imagined that?
So we have got to be completely open-minded
as to who's taken her and why. And I don't think we'll know until we find our person.
MORGAN: One of
the things that stuck me in the book is your quite open account of what it's done to your marriage, this. I mean, do you
feel that you've been quite fortunate to stay together? Do you think this could have split up many couples?
K. MCCANN: I think that's without doubt, really. I mean it's such a major event to happen to your life and the consequences
and ramifications are massive. And we're very fortunate. You know, we had a strong relationship before. We've got
a great family and really good friends who have supported us when everyone (INAUDIBLE).
And I should know the
statistics will show that most marriages break down in circumstances like this.
MORGAN: I mean, at its worst,
what's it been like trying to have a relationship through this?
G. MCCANN: It's been incredibly difficult.
And I think, as you can see from the footage and other things, I found my feet much quicker than Kate and was able to put
away a lot of the images of Madeleine and sort of compartmentalize them and almost take a conscious aspect that thinking about
the worst wasn't helping me, and it wasn't helping the search.
And there's been times where you are
-- you're just managing to keep your own head above the water. And when you're trying to get support -- and this is
a two-way thing and you didn't even -- I feel terrible now looking back, but there were times when I couldn't support
Kate because I thought, I'm going to go under.
MORGAN: Did either of you ever get suicidal?
MCCANN: No. I mean, I don't think I was ever suicidal but I often wished my life would be over. You know, I'd never
had planned anything or done anything. I knew that wasn't a possibility, that wasn't an option. But, you know, so
much pain. I used to think about, God, let's just pull the duvet over and I won't wake up tomorrow.
Gerry, there have been times where he's been -- he feels bad now -- but being unable to support you. That must have been
a particularly difficult period for you, when even Gerry couldn't seem to provide any comfort for you.
MCCANN: It was. I mean, you know, there were times when I just wanted to be held or something and -- but I -- equally I know
that the times when I couldn't support my mom and dad, for example, and we've all suffered in this.
guess you have to make sure that you're afloat in order to be able to support somebody else. You know, that works both
ways. And we are very fortunate that we've had really close family that can support us at those times.
I'm going to have another short break. When we come back, I want to talk to you about the diary that you've kept and
how cathartic that may have been for you, how helpful.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
K. MCCANN: We're doing everything we can, Madeleine, to find you. And with so many good and very kind helping us. Be
Our only Christmas wish is for you to be back with us again. And we're hoping and praying
that that will happen. I love you, Madeleine.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MORGAN: How hard is it for you to see
video footage of Madeleine, even now?
G. MCCANN: I think it's the one medium that really brings her back to
me, in particular, seeing her moving and her voice. And it's our Madeleine as oppose to the iconic picture of Madeleine,
the missing child. It's our daughter. And sometimes we just go and put the video on and sit and watch it with the kids,
MORGAN: You're both religious people. You had a private meeting with the Pope. What was that like
for you, Kate?
K. MCCANN: Well, at that point, it was just incredibly important. I mean, I truly believed that
would make a difference for Madeleine. And I've often described it as the next step, really, the closest you can get to
kind of meeting God in some way. And I just thought all my prayers, et cetera, would be channeled more quickly to God.
MORGAN: What did he say to you?
K. MCCANN: He just very simply took a photograph of Madeleine and placed
his palm on it and blessed her. And he just said I'll continue to pray for Madeleine's safe return and for all your
MORGAN: Has what's happened to you damaged your faith?
K. MCCANN: It's challenged
my faith. I mean, there's no doubt about that, really. I'm still, you know, I've still got my faith. But there
have been times, and particularly back in 2008 -- was my worst year. I'm not embarrassed to say I felt angry with God.
And I couldn't understand why all this happened, not Madeleine being taken, because I don't believe that was the will
of God, but everything that had happened subsequently, and the fact that we just felt so many challenges, particularly in
Portugal, where I felt we really needed help.
I really wanted someone to stand up and say, this is all wrong,
we'll help you. And I guess, you know -- I threw that back at God, really, and said, why are you allowing all of this
to happen, you know? We can handle so much, but this just seems too much.
MORGAN: Gerry, do you still keep Madeleine's
room as it always was? G. MCCANN: Yes. There's a lot more stuff in it now. Lots of presents and things. But I've pretty
much kept it. I'm like sentimental about it, I have to say. But Kate finds it particularly comforting in there --
K. MCCANN: And Sean and Amelie like going in. They always go in and say, can we borrow one of Madeleine's teddy bears
MORGAN: How have they dealt with it?
K. MCCANN: Brilliantly. We've always been as honest
as we could be with them. And that was certainly the advice we were given.
MORGAN: What do they think happened
K. MCCANN: Well, they know that a man has taken her. And they know that that's wrong. And they
know that we're all looking for her, lots of people are helping us.
G. MCCANN: Looking at Sean and Amelie,
though, you really didn't know that a major trauma has happened in their lives. They can talk about -- we were on holiday
last week and meet little kids. And they talk about brothers and sisters, and they say, oh, we've got a big sister Madeleine
but she's missing and we're looking for her. And they talk about the response.
MORGAN: Today would have
been her eighth birthday. I mean, every part of you must be wondering what she looks like now, apart from anything else, how
would you have celebrated today. I mean, do you commemorate the day? Will you do anything with the other two children? How
do you deal with a birthday when she's not there?
K. MCCANN: Well, what we've done the last few -- few
years, we have marked the day. I mean, we've had like a -- just a sort of small sort of birthday tea really with close
family and friends. This year's obviously different with the launch of the book and stuff. So we're very busy.
I mean, it's hard -- I find it hard to think, well, I've got an eight-year-old daughter. You know, and as
you say, what does she look like? And I do try and imagine her and make her taller and stuff. And -- but it's hard, you
know, because we should be -- we should be with her, you know, celebrating her birthday together, so --
In many ways, I think launching a book today is a good thing to do on her birthday. It's doing something positive. It's
reenergizing the search. We've launched the campaign, as she said, with News International to get a review.
And I think these are milestones that you pass and you know there's going to be media attention irrespective. So it's
always a good time, from our point of view, to capitalize on that. We've just got to find her really.
After the break, we'll talk specifically about how people watching this can possible help you, and to see also where you
think the focus of investigation should now be.
MORGAN: How can people help? If you're
watching this interview and you're keen to try and help you in some way in the search for Madeleine, what is the most
effective way that people can do this?
G. MCCANN: I think it's two things. One, read the book, "Madeleine."
And our website has all the key information as well and contact numbers and key images. So that's www findmadeline.com.
And there's lots of information through that.
People in the U.K. and Portugal, we want them to lobby their
MPs and governments to conduct a review. And that's the call to action today really, to try and get that done.
MORGAN: Madeleine had a very distinctive eye pattern, didn't she? Tell me about that, Kate, in case people see somebody
they think may be Madeleine. Tell me about her eye.
K. MCCANN: If I'm honest, we haven't put too much emphasis
on her eye, because I think you have to be very close to her to see it. But her eyes are slightly different colors, and one
of them has this brown fleck in it. But you do notice, particularly on photographs, but --
MORGAN: Slightly distinctive
eye colors and a little fleck.
MORGAN: And do you know if that would be still there if she's now eight years
G. MCCANN: Certainly believe it wouldn't have changed. I think there's been a pattern to be still
there. That it's -- the technical term is coloboma, where there's a defect in the iris. I don't think it is actually.
I think it's actually an additional bit of color. She certainly had no visual problems.
MORGAN: If people see
somebody they think could possibly be Madeleine, who should they call?
G. MCCANN: They should call the police,
local police. You know, if they really think it is Madeleine and it gets addressed there and then. It's actually quite
difficult if you get information coming in historically about sightings. So the advice is clear, is should be to call the
K. MCCANN: But if they could call all options and let our investigation team know as well, that would
be really helpful.
MORGAN: Have there been moments when you've been pretty much confident that you may have
G. MCCANN: Never.
K. MCCANN: I don't think so. And I don't think we've ever
allowed ourselves to go there. I mean, earlier on when there was the odd kind of -- what turned out to be a hoax call, you
always have that real hope of this could be it, it could all just be over. But since then, because of the total and emotional
roller coaster really that we've been on, you just try and hold back really.
And a lot of the pictures that
we've been sent that have been looked at, you kind of know it's not, but you just need total verification.
MORGAN: Do you still talk to Madeleine? Do you still have any kind of conversation with her?
K. MCCANN: I do.
I mean, I still go into her bedroom twice a day just to -- really just to open the curtains and stuff and close them at night,
and I just have a little word to her. And I still keep my diaries, so --
MORGAN: Can you sleep OK now?
K. MCCANN: I can, actually, yeah. It took a long time, cause the nights were the worst. I mean, I still have the odd night
where if she's very much on my mind and something's upset me then it's hard to sleep, but I'm sleeping fine
MORGAN: I mean, there have been -- as you said earlier, there have been cases quite recently of girls who
just disappeared reappearing -- in Jaycee Dugard's case, 18 years later -- from captivity. When you see those stories,
does your heart flip a bit? Do you think there's hope, or is it almost like a knife in your back that Madeleine hasn't?
K. MCCANN: I think, overall, it gives you hope. I mean, you know, obviously every day we hope that it's not going
to be 18 years, as every parent would. But at the end of the day, it just highlights how easy it is for children to disappear
off the radar and to turn up, you know, many, many years later. So, by that point, many people would have written that child
off for dead and it just shows you how wrong you can be.
G. MCCANN: I think the strongest thing for us is the public
consciousness that these sorts of abductions, children are found. And that is more important and it's really important
not to give up on Madeleine.
You can't give up on them. You've got to keep her image out there. And who
knows how she'll be found, whether it be recognized. Mostly we want to try and track the abductor.
I mean, there's a tiny chance, I guess, that Madeleine might be somewhere where she may see this interview. You never
know. You don't know who she's with or where she is. If she was, what would you say to her?
I'd say, Madeleine, we're still looking for you and if you get a chance, tell the police who you are. MORGAN: Kate,
what would you -- what would you say, if you had the chance?
K. MCCANN: I would just say, you know, we love you,
Madeleine. We're not giving up. We're still looking for you. If you can, let somebody know, honey, and we'll get
MORGAN: Well, I -- I just hope you keep the faith and that she turns up. I think everybody does. It's
been a harrowing time for you. Can't even begin to imagine what you've been through, but I really appreciate you spending
the time with me.
K. MCCANN: Thank you.
G. MCCANN: Thank you very much for having us.
MORGAN: Tomorrow night, an extraordinary story of transformation; Chaz Bono on becoming a man after
being born a woman. His first live, prime time interview with his partner, Jennifer Allear (ph). That's tomorrow night,
and Gerry McCann talk to Kirsty Wark about the disappearance in 2007 of their daughter Madeleine while on a family holiday
(McCann segment starts from 22:27)
Kate and Gerry McCann: Why I admire
their strength to march on, 15 May 2011
Kate and Gerry McCann: Why I admire their strength to
march on Sunday Express
Emma Crosby of Channel 5 News Sunday May 15 2011
THIS week I interviewed Kate and Gerry McCann for Channel 5 News on what would
have been Madeleine's eighth birthday.
Before the cameras roll we all have a chat. They are
relaxed, friendly and utterly normal. It's obvious they're family people, they love their children dearly and put
them at the heart of everything they do.
As the cameras roll and I mention Madeleine's name, the pain on Kate
and Gerry's faces is immediate. It's like a switch has been flicked. They hold hands tightly.
open and honest and no question is out of bounds. They admit their responsibility about not hiring a babysitter that fateful
night four years ago and put up with so much hostility thrown their way. I admire their strength to keep marching on. And
this latest push, Kate's book is one gargantuan effort. The notes were already there, compiled from intimate diaries Kate
kept from the moment Madeleine disappeared.
Gerry muses that his wife's accurate and logical account of the
events could be one of the starting blocks in the new Met Police's investigation.
It may be just the tool to
finding Madeleine, or at least unearthing what happened to her.
Kate McCann 'I feel guilty every
day of my life', 16 May 2011
Kate McCann 'I feel guilty every
day of my life' Woman magazine (paper edition)
Kate McCann 'I feel guilty every
day of my life', 16 May 2011
Kate McCann 'I feel guilty
every day of my life' Woman magazine (paper edition)
In a frank, exclusive interview, Kate McCann tells Siân Merrylees how
she and her family have coped over the four years since her daughter's disappearance
Edition: 23 May 2011, Published: 16 May 2011
This week, Kate McCann, 42, should
celebrating her daughter Madeleine's eighth birthday at home in Rothley, Leicester. It's been a long and painful four
years for her, husband Gerry, 42, and twins Sean and Amelie, now six, since Madeleine vanished while on a family holiday in
About four months after Madeleine disappeared, I dreamt about her. In the dream, someone at
her nursery rang to tell me she had been found there and suddenly she was smiling at me and I was holding her. But then I
Waking crucified me, because holding her had felt so real. At times, I've felt as if I'd embarked
on a slow, painful death.
Not knowing where your child is, how she is, who she is with, and when you will see her
again is a glimpse of hell.
For the first two years I couldn't let myself relax or do anything enjoyable. I
couldn't watch TV, read or go out for a meal. Taking pleasure in anything felt so wrong. With Madeleine still missing,
I felt guilty that we weren't spending every second looking for her.
I also felt slight resentment in the early
weeks that my husband Gerry seemed able to do normal things, like playing tennis. I couldn't understand how he wasn't
totally consumed with grief. But he was just dealing with his despair differently, and now I'm glad that he did.
It wasn't until the summer of 2008, when we went to stay with my aunt in Canada, that I let myself relax. I'd had
a run and was soaking in a warm bath with a glass of red wine. For the first time, I felt the full weight of our lives lift.
But even as I acknowledged that, I had a wave of guilt.
Four years on, we still don't know what's happened
to Madeleine. I just hope with all my heart she wasn't taken by a child sex offender, although of course I know
it's one of the possible scenarios.
In the days after her disappearance, I was tormented with a macabre slide
show of images that no sane human being would want in her head. I would see her lying cold and mottled on a big grey stone
slab, and awful pictures of her being torn apart scrolled through my mind.
I was desperate to talk to someone about
them, and when Gerry and I took a walk on the beach in Portugal, I confided in him. Of course, he'd had similar thoughts,
so we could comfort each other and it brought us even closer together.
When Gerry returned to work as a heart specialist
in Leicester, in November 2007, I had a lot of time to grieve. I cried every day for 18 months, went to church several times
a day and also spent a lot of time analysing our relationship. I was worried that I would never again be the Kate that Gerry
had fallen in love with.
Somehow, life goes on
And as it was hard to get those horrific
images out of my head, it is not surprising that the idea of sex repulsed me. But I was determined not to let the evil person
who had taken Madeleine destroy anything else in our life. I knew sex is important, so I focused on what Gerry meant to me,
how special he was, and the beautiful family we'd created together, and gradually worked through it.
determined to let everyone realise our little girl was missing but suddenly becoming well-known ourselves was difficult.
I've always been self-conscious, not one to stand out in a crowd, but now I found myself worrying that if I nipped
into a shop to buy some fruit, somebody would be thinking: 'They're asking us for money for their fund, but they're
buying strawberries in M&S. Why don't they shop at Aldi and save some pennies?'
And when the twins
had tantrums, I wondered if onlookers were thinking sympathetically: 'All kids do that,' or judging me and saying:
'Her child looks unhappy.' It all added to the stress.
The day Madeleine was due to start school was awful, as she was so looking forward to it. On every one of the twins'
milestones, from starting school to celebrating their fourth birthday (and every birthday since), I inevitably dwell on what
I haven't had with Madeleine.
The twins often talk about her and we have a keepsake box next to her bed where
we put pictures they have drawn, leaves they've collected for her - even the last sweet in a packet. We've been overwhelmed
with gifts for her, so her room is now full of teddy bears, hand-knitted blankets and prayer books.
I go in every
day to open and close the curtains, and sometimes just sit there thinking of her.
Before all this happened, I remember
thinking how lucky Gerry and I were. We'd been through IVF and ended up with three wonderful children. I was so grateful.
I know that other families who have lost children go on to have others and although you can never replace a child, I can see
the joy can have a slightly healing effect. But for us, having another child would mean IVF treatment, and that would be a
very conscious decision. And we'd be under constant scrutiny.
Sean and Amelie have always known their sister
is missing, but recently we explained that a man took her. When I told Sean he couldn't stay in the car while I went into
the petrol station the other day, he asked: 'Because someone might take me?'
They are very matter-of-fact
about it, rather than fearful. Sean suggested we ask the police to help us find Madeleine.
no official organisation is looking for her. The Portuguese authorities have priority over the case.
it in July 2008, and no one else is allowed to reopen it or work on it unless requested by them. We're currently lobbying
the British and Portuguese governments to review the case, and we continue paying private investigators to follow up
leads. Many, frustratingly, come to nothing but they have to be eliminated.
The search continues
Even when there is only a couple of thousand pounds in the fund, it seems like a lot of money to me.
the accountant told us last year that we only had enough to cover six more months of investigations, we organised three fund-raisers.
And I hope the sales of the book I've written will help with funds and bring in information.
We have to keep
appealing for leads, as someone is carrying around a big burden.
Whoever took Madeleine is someone's son, cousin
or neighbour. We have to keep prodding that someone's conscience until if s the right time for them to pass details on.
I've come to accept that taking time out from our search is important so, since writing the book, I am stepping
back from the investigation for a bit. It will coincide with the children's summer holidays but, to be honest, I'm
not sure what I will do.
I still havea restless, anxious sense that we have to be doing something to find her in
every waking moment.
When we do find her, I know it's going to be a challenge, but bring it on!
deal with anything. It's upsetting thinking she might be living a different life and calling someone else 'Mummy'.
And I've stopped speculating on other possible scenarios.
We had such a great four years together with
Madeleine, I'm sure there's something that would help us reconnect.
We just need to be given that chance.
The Questions l Ask Myself
'There have been so many questions in my
brain and there have been many days when all I wanted was to pull the duvet over my head,' says Kate.
the tapas bar booking tip off the abductor?
Although not usual, the receptionist at the holiday resort
let Kate and friends book the tapas restaurant near their apartments for the week ahead. Kate noticed in police reports that
the receptionist had left a note at the pool reception explaining she'd let them do so because they were leaving their
kids sleeping alone in nearby apartments. When she saw the note, Kate was horrified as It was accessible to staff, guests
and visitors to the complex, and obviously a risk'.
Who is this man?
Jane noticed a man carrying a child a few minutes' walk from our apartment the night Madeleine disappeared. A family from
Ireland saw him too and all had noticed, despite the chilly night, that the child was barefoot, not covered in a blanket and
the man looked as if he was not used to carrying a child.' Kate points out that if he was an innocent father, surely he
would have come forward to be eliminated from the investigations.
Why did we leave the kids alone?
The listening service at the resort involved staff periodically checking on sleeping children by standing outside
their doors. Kate and her friends chose to leave their children alone, but go one better and check them themselves. This is
a decision they 'now bitterly regret and will do so until the end of our days'.
Was Madeleine drugged?
'The day she went missing, Madeleine was pale and tired and asked me to carry her from the pool back
to the apartment,' says Kate. 'It was odd as usually she has loads of energy.' Was her daughter tired from holiday
activities or had she been given something during that day - or the previous night - to make her sleepy? einforcing Kate's
fears is the fact that despite the chaos, lights and screaming that went on after their sister's disappearance was discovered,
the twins slept soundly on. Were they drugged too?
Was someone in the room the night before?
The day before she went missing Madeleine asked why her parents hadn't come to them when she and Sean had cried
in the middle of the night. 'I'm haunted by those words,' says Kate. 'I'm convinced someone was in their
room to wake them and blame myself for not sitting down with Madeleine and drawing more information out of her.'
Why did we become suspects?
Kate and Gerry became suspects in September 2007 and were not cleared
till 10 months later. Kate was incensed that while the police focused on them, the man she thinks took Madeleine was free.
'He was probably smiling and thinking: 'Keep blaming the parents and I'll keep on taking children."
What was the stain on Madeleine's top?
'I didn't think of it at the time but the
day Madeleine disappeared I noticed what I thought was a tea stain on her Disney pyjama top,' she says. 'I washed
it without thinking but looking back, the children hadnt drunk any tea that day and I can't remember her mentioning that
she'd spilt anything.'
Does she miss her Cuddle Cat?
toy, Cuddle Cat, goes everywhere with me now! And when Sean or Amelie have lost their own toys, they always ask to borrow